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Feb 2010

Q:

Rob,

We are venturing down to Metung in Mid March, 2010 and are looking to try our luck at fishing. My friend and I are always excited at the prospect of catching some fish but as we are constantly reminded by our children and wife's this just doesn't happen. For once it would be great to prove them wrong and regain some self respect.

In an attempt to regain some self respect we have invested in an aluminium runabout but to ensure success we are looking for some additional assistance.

Please Help…

Cheers

Renzo

A:

Renzo, good to hear from you.

 

It's a bit difficult to give good advise without having a look at your gear. If you are fishing too heavy you may not catch fish with any advise. So my first suggestion is to make sure your fishing line is 2kg or 3kg fluoro carbon. Braid is good for deep water fishing and lurer fishing but not so good for bait fishing in the lakes. You can add mono to the end of your braid and this will increase your chances.

 

My recent experience has been gained while fishing around Paynesville, so it may not be relevant to Lakes Entrance - Metung area, but the following method will work at Paynesville. I also tried it in the Tambo where I caught a couple of small bream, and in the Nicholson and Mitchell rivers where I caught size bream.

 

1. Buy a loaf of fresh white sliced bread for bait.

2. Tie on a number 8 hook (short shank).

3. Do not use any lead.

4. Roll the bread up into a ball baring size and drop it in the water from a jetty. Drop it in where the sand disappears from sight. (this may not be at the end of the jetty)

5. After burley for 1 minute add the same amount of bread to your hook and drop it in with the burley.

6. Leave the line slack so that it sinks naturally.

7. Continue with the burly.

8. If you have not had a bite in 5 minuets try another spot.

 

If this method does not work around Metung, jump in the boat and come up to Paynesville and try again.

If you are still unable to catch a fish then enquire at Paynesville Seafoods. My brother Jeff will be able to contact me for one on one tuition. 

 

Mid march is the perfect time to catch a feed of prawns, so make sure you come equipped and be sure to let us know how you went. (pictures please)

 

 

Feb 2010

 

 

 

Bait.

 

There are Bream everywhere under the jetties around the Island, but how to catch them?

 

I read recently that good bait was hard to get, with supplies of sandworm, shell and shrimp being irregular and European shore crabs at $8.00 for 8. Prawn is always available, but I would question weather or not it’s productive as bait.

 

What then, should we use to catch these wily old fish? Bread. Yes fresh bread.

You could use a couple of bread rolls at 70c each or buy a loaf for under $4.00. If you do this it will last up to 3 days.

 

Why fresh bread? Because the bread must be malleable. You need to be able to press the bread around a hook and have it stay there without becoming water logged. If it gets too dry and becomes waterlogged it will fall off the hook.

 

 

The subtleties of this method are as follows. Use 3kg fluoro carbon mono fishing line. Attach a number 6 hook, and squeeze a piece of bread around it in a small ball. Then begin using small pieces of rolled up bread as burley. You will see the fish begin to feed after a while and this is when you drop in your bait.

If the bait is the same size as all the other pieces, the fish should not notice the difference and will vacuum it up with

the rest.

 

You must be very careful when using bread as bait as the swans also like to eat it and will grab the baited hook. I avoid this by throwing a handful of bread out a couple of meters, and when they are preoccupied with this I drop my bait down beside the jetty.

 

On occasions larger fish can be seen swimming around just outside the distance you are able to cast the unweighted line. I get around this by taking another larger piece of bread which I roll into a pencil. I then wrap the line around the pencil a couple of times and bend the bread over, sealing the line inside. I do this about 600mm from the hook. This extra weight allows me to cast a further 5 metres and adds to the burley if it comes off the line. The major advantage of this method over using a sinker is that it sinks at the same rate as the bait, an important factor.

 

The photo is of Cam Medling with a 42cm bream caught using this method.

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Q. Hi, I was hoping that  you could please tell me the value of a commercial lake fishing licence that is active. ( fished weekly ). In other words how much would a Gippsland lakes commercial lake licence cost to buy. ? I would appreciate very much any information you can supply me.

 

 

Hi Stephanie, so you want to become a commercial fisherman (woman) in the Gippsland Lakes (GL).

 

When I started 20 years ago, there were 36 licences in the Gippsland Lakes and to obtain one of these you needed to ;

(1) Consolidate two licences into one. That is you had to find two licences holders that were willing to sell;

(2) You must have worked for 24 months with a commercial fisher on the GL; 

(3) you required a Coxswain Certificate.


If you achieved these you needed a boat that was registered with the Fisheries that met the Marine board safety regulations. The marine Board survey your boat every year to satisfy them self that it meets the safety standards. And finally you require enough net to work. 

 

Times have changed, now there are 10 license holders in the GL. Each licence is transferable to an individual or corporate body on a one for one basis, and the owner of the licence can nominate an operator to fish. These licences are issued each year at a ever increasing cost.

The nominated operator (fisher) requires a sound knowledge of the relevant rules and regulations and must be the holder of a Coxswain certificate. You must also be a 'fit and proper person' under the act before the Department will issue a licence.

So if you have been found guilty of a criminal act or of committing offences against the fisheries act, you would be unlikely to be issued with a licence.

Having bought the licence you will require a boat with the relevant Fisheries registration, Marine Board certificate, a Prime Safe 'safe food handling accreditation, and net.

 

The one thing money cannot buy is experience. In this multi species fishery, experience is crucial.

 

Cost.

Each licence holder has a different view of the value. You may be able to lease a licence for as little as $200/week. Or buy one for $300,000. This will not include a boat or equipment. It is rumoured that the State Government paid 5 fishers 6 Million, when they kicked them out of Western Port Bay after the last election and there is an election coming up this year, so there may be nothing to buy. 

 

24 Jan 10

 

Q :I have been reading your article on Prawning . Thanks to you I caught a few prawns. Thank you for your help.

    I made a mess of cooking them. Any advise please ?

 

Answer.

 When you get home from pawning it is often late, so I put the prawns in a container in the fridge. This has the effect of anesthetising them. In the morning, I put a pot of water on to boil, when it boils I drop the prawns in bringing them back to the boil. I hold them at boiling point for 3 minutes.

It is good to cool them as quickly as possible so as to stop the cooking process. For this I use a number of frozen milk bottles of water which i drop into a sink full of cold water. I dunk the prawns in this until cooled. I like them on white bread with vinegar and salt and pepper. Yumm.

 

People seem to have trouble peeling the prawns, so here is my method.

Hold the prawn in right hand with the head to the left and legs down.

Using the thumb nail of the left hand, cut and break the head off.

Using the same thumb nail remove two or three rungs of shell.

Holding the peeled meat in the left hand squeeze the meat in the tail between the thumb and forefinger, starting at the base of the tail and slowly closing the fingers together, forcing the meat away from the tail. This should leave you with a peeled prawn in the left hand. Dunk in a salt pepper and vinegar mix and eat. 

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Q:  I used to come down years ago on a trailer-sailor and we used to catch some big crabs near Rigby Island .

      Can not find any these days . Are the gone forever ?

Answer.

 The crabs come and go from the lakes each year, there are always crabs in that area and I am surprised you did not catch any. Keep trying.

 

Q: My daughter caught a BIG flattie the other day. A chap made her throw it back in. He told her that there is a law

     which say flatties over a certain size have to be released to preserve the breeding stock. I can not find that

     ruling anywhere. Do you know anything about that ? ps : She was in tears.

Answer.

There is always some smart a-- around who think they know the rules. in this case he was wrong. The min size is 27cm and there is a limit of one fish over 60cm that you can keep.

Part of what he said would be correct, the larger flathead are all female, and this is why only one can be retained over 60cm. So although you may keep one fish over 60cm it is better to release these fish after taking a couple of photos.

 

 

Q: Is there a way to catch eels ?  Hooking or netting 

Answer.

I hear of fishers catching eels on all sorts of bait when fishing for other fish. As a kid I would fish for silver eel in the local dam using a piece of meat for bait.

 

 

 

 

Nov 09

 

Q: It says somewhere that you are the last professional fisherman left on the Lakes. Is that right ?

        A.    No, that is not right. I am the last commercial fisherman working from Paynesville. There are 10 fishing licenses working the lakes with most of these based in Lakes Entrance. All licence holders can work anywhere in the Gippsland Lakes.

 

 

Q: I have heard people talk about the 12 mile reef. Have you ever been out there ?

A. I never fish off shore so I know nothing about 12 mile reef.

 

Q: You have some great photos of sea eagles. How many do we have in our area ?

       A.    The eagles need about 100 sq km of coastline (lake edge) as their territory. These territories often overlap a little. In this area a pair nests on Raymond Island, another on Boole Poole, another on Rotamah Island. These are the birds I see most as I do most of fishing in their territories. Others nest near Loch Sport, Duck Arm, Jones Bay, Metung etc.

 

Q: Everyone says that fishing with live bait is the best way to go. Is that your experience ?

A. This is not a simple question to answer. This may be the case if fishing offshore. But I find when fishing in the lakes that a variety of baits and equipment are required.  Live baits could mean live shrimp, live sandworm, live prawns, and live spider crab, all these work well at different times.

When fishing for Taylor, Flathead, Perch and Bass lures work best. For Luderick, green weed is excellent. Garfish bite best on sandworm. Bream can be caught on a variety of lures and baits.

 

9 Aug 09

 

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Q : I hit on your site for the first time the other day, do you do any surf fishing ?  I hear " wise " old men talking about " fishing in channels " What does that mean ?

 

A: I don’t do much surf fishing, but Brother Jeff does. Fishing in channels simply means to look for the deeper sections of water. The beach can vary a lot. It’s no good casting out into shallow water, so most surf fisherman take a moment to determine where the deeper sections are and move up the beach to these.

I am told the full moon is the best time to fish. The best baits are strips of trevally, tailor, eel or carp.

 

Q : What really frustrates my daughter ( All of ten years old ) she can see " big " fish under the jetties around Paynesville, but she can never catch any.

Do have any advise for her ?

 

A: The big fish under the jetties can be Bream, trevally or luderick. Its important to know which fish she is fishing for as each can require a different technique.

Luderick are predominantly vegetarians and are fished for using weed under a float.

Trevally are best caught up off the bottom with prawn, and the big bream are probably 20 years old and have seen it all. It takes finesse, cunning and patience to outwit them.

My preferred method is to use a slack line with a piece of whitebait on a wide gap hook, and plenty of patience. Alternative methods are to use a spider crab or live shrimp under a float.

 

Q : Can you tell us what the type of dolphin is we seen in the Lakes at the moment .

 

No I am not sure of the species, they are either common dolphins of bottle nose dolphins or both. It is suggested that there are 50 resident animals and up to 200 others that enter the lakes. A good website to look at is  http://www.dolphinresearch.org.au/

 

Q: Am I right when I say that there are not nearly as many tailors around compared with a few years ago ?

 

A: What you have noticed is that the gulls and turns have not been working hard out in the lake over the summer months. But this does not mean less tailor in the lake, it simply means they are a bit harder to find.

A good time to catch tailor is now. The location is the jetty on the north of the Ferry -Paynesville side. With a pair of polarized sunglasses, schools of tailor can be seen swimming past quite close. On Saturday arvo I caught 10 from 15 casts, using a diving lure. Any lure with a bib that will drag it down near the school. These fish can’t help them selves and must attack it. 

 

Q: I heard the other day that terns eventually go blind from diving into the water with their eyes open all their life. Do you know anything about that ?

 

A: No I don’t. But it sounds like bull to me. 

 

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Meet our cormorants

22 July 09

 

The other day I watched a mob of black cormorants flying down the straits between Raymond Island and Paynesville. I wondered if they were little blacks - which live in a colony up Newlands arm - or a mob of big black cormorants - that migrate into the lakes over the winter and spring.

At a distance they are black cormorants and not easy to tell apart.

Both mobs feed in much the same way. The birds at the back of the mob, fly to the front, land and immediately dive below the surface. As you watch more and more fly and land and dive. I call this "casting the net". Those fish that are fleeing the chasing birds suddenly find themselves trapped between the birds chasing and the birds landing in front of them, their fate is sealed.

Just who gets to eat these fish is not yet determined. Sure the cormorant has caught the fish, but needs to surface to complete the act of swallowing the fish. On the surface are waiting pelicans. If the fish is large and the cormorant takes a few seconds to flick the fish around so it can be swallowed head first, the pelican will have the cormorant in a head lock until it coughs up the fish. There is often much flapping and protesting by the cormorant, but to no avail, the pelican will not let go until the fish is given up. 

 

Pelicans are not the only birds taking advantage of the feeding cormorants. I once watched a mob of cormorants feeding in the Mitchell river. As the birds moved up stream two egrets were keeping up with them by flying along the bank, landing and peering into the water. I assume small fish fleeing from the cormorants would rush head long into the waiting jaws of the egrets. And there is always a flock of gulls and turns following a mob of cormorants. 

 

So how do you tell the mobs apart? I find that the little blacks flap their wings most of the time when flying in formation, where as the big blacks flap a little glide a little.

 

 

 

Pelicans nesting early ?


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 Pelicans, 9 June 09.

 

Here we are at the beginning of winter, the first snow is beginning to fall on the hills and it is bloody cold out fishing at daybreak. So I was surprised to see a pelican with bright red colouring on the skin under its beak this morning.

 

 This colour alerted me to the possibility that the pelicans are beginning to nest on the islands near Ocean Grange. So after hauling my nets this morning I slipped in through the Eastern Entrance to have a look.

 

The pelicans have been nesting on the island for about 5 years now.  One of the older fishermen of the area – now in his 80s- cannot remember the pelicans nesting in the Gippsland Lakes before this.

 

My view is that a fox baiting program, that is undertaken each year, to protect the colony of Little Terns, that sometime nest on the islands, has provided the safe environment that the pelicans needed to get started.

 

This is a good indicator of the health of the Lakes at the moment.

 

The swans should begin to scratch up by the end of this month.

 

 

Carstairs Light

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 June 09

 

One of the lakes icons has now been pulled down and replaced with a modern – low maintenance – facsimile. Carstairs Light as I have known it for the last 50 years is no more.

 

Gippsland ports have been replacing the old wooden structures with new steel poles. Although I understand the need for this action I am sad to see the old wooden frame that holds so many memories for me and provided a place to rest for both birds and fish, replaced with the modern equivalent. (see photo)

 

My fondest memories come from the eighties, when large numbers of big blue nose bream and luderick would aggregate in the shade of the old wooden frame during mid summer.

 

I would roar around the lake going from light to light in my 12 ft tinny, casting unweighted chunks of peeled prawn as close as possible to the poles. I would watch the prawn slowly sink and suddenly the line would tighten. A strike could see a bream from 1.5 lb to 3 lb take off into the deep.                                                                                                                                                            Click on photo to enlarge

 

I quickly learnt to place the boat in just the right place, as the fish always ran in the same direction – to the deep. If you were anchored up on the shallow side the fish ran your line under the wooden structure with obvious consequences.

 

I still have nightmares of one trip to Carstairs light. I stopped at the light on a day when I had no real intention of fishing. Yet I never went anywhere without some fishing gear. I could see fish under the light and on looking around the boat I found I had my trout gear, but no bait.

I did a lot of spinning for trout and considered the red and gold Celter the best lure.

This was many years before lure fishing for bream became popular. I hooked on a spinner and flicked it beyond the poles and began to retrieve, immediately 8 to 10 big blue nose fish came out from underneath the light and swam up close to the lure. They were clearly interested but did not strike. I repeated this several more times with the same result.

 

What an opportunity lost. I now know that bream like to strike when the lure is stationary, something you can’t do with a Celter.

With some thought and research I could have come up with a lure that they liked and had a fishing session of a lifetime, but in those days I had other agendas.

 

And finally, each spring my wife, Rose, would request a bin full of guano for the garden. The light was a popular roost for the pied cormorant, so the droppings were 100mm thick and easy - if a bit smelly – to collect.

 

 

May 09

 

Q: When I looked at the webpage I saw you catching a beauty. I thought ; that will do me and got ready to visit the Lakes. Than I read your article and realised it's a NZ fishing trip..

 

Can you tell me a bit about it. I am sure other viewers would interested too.

 

Thank  you

 

C.J. Bradshaw.

Box Hill

 

NZ in April 09

 

Four friends and I headed over to NZ for a spot of fly fishing. As with any trip there are good things and bad things that happen, so let’s deal with the bad first.

 

1. We hired two campervans from a well known hire company and on arrival in NZ we were forced to wait 3 hours to get our vans. The flight only took 4 hours. We were pissed off. When we returned the vans it took a further 1.5 hours to get rid of them.

 

On the next trip I intend to catch a late flight into NZ, book into a motel in Christchurch for the night (see the city) order the van to be delivered to the motel the next day. I am sure one of the hire companies will oblige.

 

We hired a 6 berth and a 4 berth, the 4 berth was set out much better. The 3 litre turbo diesel motors ran very well at top speed and gave us great economy (10 lt /100 km).

 

2. When fishing in NZ streams and lakes one must remember that crystal clear water that looks only 300mm deep may actually be a metre deep. One hasty step may see you coming up from the depths covered in duck weed, as yours truly did. Very cold.

 

3. When travelling overseas make sure that you clean out all foreign objects from your back packs before you pack.

As the 5 of us passed through security, one member was asked to step to one side and talk to a security officer. The conversation went something like this.

 

“Sir are you a hunter?”

“Yes but we are over hear (in NZ) to do a bit of fishing.”

“Sir are you aware that you have ammunition in your bag?”

“I don’t think so; I cleaned out the bag before we left.”

“Sir could you remove the contents please?”

All the clothes and other things were put on the bench. The officer then picked up the bag and found a small hole in one of the pockets through which a .222 calibre bullet had slipped into the lining.

Our now red faced friend was thinking about all those episodes of border security he had watched. Interrogation rooms, cameras, cavity search etc. ”What happens now? he stammered.

“Sir we will have to confiscate the ammunition and fill out a form in triplicate.”

Our relived fisher was allowed to continue carrying the red copy.

The rest of us were disappointed he did not get the full body search; it would have been most entertaining.

 

When fishing NZ, the best time to go is Nov, Dec not April. By April the remaining fish are educated. So each day we would see fish up to 4 pound in the rivers and lakes, but they were not easy to catch. Each of the members of the party did manage to catch fish up to 4 pound.

 

There are so many rivers and so many fish, and the back drop is so spectacular, that catching fish is a bonus. 

 

The autumn leaves were spectacular against a stark bleak mountain range. The rivers roared down from Mount Cook over millions of polished rocks, for mile after mile. The further up the rivers you travelled the larger the trout became. We stopped at a bridge over a gorge and looked slack jawed at trout of 8 to 10 pounds feeding below us in a raging torrent.

 

One member of the party called them teasers, but we had to try. No-one managed to catch any of these fish.

 

If you are interested in trout fishing then NZ is the place to go.

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Q;My son wants to catch a skimpy ( is that what you call them ? ) but I don't have a boat. Can you catch them from a jetty ? What bait please ?

 

A : Taylor are called skippies, there are a lot in the lake at the moment. The best way to catch them is to cast a silver wobblers out into the straits and retrieve it quickly. It may take a lot of casts off the jetty but without a boat, this is the best way.

There are a few luderick about the jetties at the moment. I caught two off the youth club jetties on Tuesday arvo using cabbage. I met a couple of new Islanders on the jetties. They have been here for two months, and are doing a lot of fishing. Their gear needs a little modification and I assume this will occur over time. They were impressed at how easy it was to catch the luderick. 

 

Q :Are there sharks in the Gippsland Lakes ?

 

A ; Yes there are sharks in the Gippsland Lakes. Two weeks ago, one of the commercial fishers caught a 11 kg gummy shark in Bunga Arm. The following week he caught a Big Eye Tuna at Nungurner.  I think the key to this is just how salty the lakes are. There are also reports of a large leatherback turtle down near the barrier.

The lakes are open to the sea so the only thing that keeps sea creatures out is their like, or dislike of fresh water. At times like this when the rivers are low, more sea creatures come in to the lakes.

 

 

If the weather clears up for Easter there should be plenty of Tailor to catch around Raymond Island. Large numbers of the fish have moved into the lake, and although they are small they are plentiful.

 

Look for the gulls and Turns feeding, but don't be seduced by the large mob of black cormorants, the tailor are not under the cormorants.

 

The best lure is a silver wobblers. This lure consistently out fishes all others.

 

 

27 mar 09

The bream are thick around Paynesville and Raymond Island jetties at the moment, but how to catch them?

 

I tried prawn, shrimp, shell without success, then I heard how someone was feeding the swans bread and the bream appeared around the feet of the swan vacuuming up the crumbs. Never one to die wondering I grabbed a bread roll and wandered over to the water.

 

Sure enough the bream appeared as I fed the swans. being lunch time I ordered a handful of chips from Paynesville Seafood and baited up a hook with bread.

 

I had to be careful the swans did not grab the bait as I dropped the bated hook down into the feeding bream. I saw one heading for the bait and braised my self for the bite only to see the fish swerve off at the last second. Foiled again.

 

As I stood there eating my chips I began dropping pieces of chip in to the water. These sink quickly and disappeared as the bream grabbed them.

 

So I baited up with chips, 20 minutes later I had eaten all the bait, put on 2kg in weight and caught 3 bream.

 

For the best bait in town go to Paynesville Seafood.  

Mar 09

 

Q: A mate swears he caught a snapper off  Rigby Island . I told him he's got to joking .

 

A: Yes this is possible. Over the years many snapper have been caught in the Gippsland Lakes, although they are generally not very big. They begin to show up during the summer months when the lakes are saltier.

 

Q: Hi Mr. Morecroft. I an 10 years of age. Do I need a fishing licence. Dad says no, but Mum says I should check with you.

 A: No you wont need a licence until you turn 18 years of age. That gives you another 8 years of free fishing, not a bad deal I recon. Now is a good time to try and catch those big bream that are hanging around under the jetties.

 

Q: I saw a couple of guys use a spear gun to catch some breams. Is that legal ?

By the way, they caught two beauties who were sitting under a jetty.

 

A: No it is illegal to use a spear gun or Hawaiian sling within 30 m of any jetty.

There are areas in the Gippsland Lakes where a spear gun or Hawaiian sling can be used, such as the compass beacons in Lake King, near Wattle Point and around the groins at Lakes entrance.

It is illegal in the rest of the Gippsland Lakes.

 

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Feb 09

 

Q :I got this $ 1000 from our PM..... is it worthwhile buying a fish finder. I just have a little tinnie.

 

A: I use a fish finder every day on my tinnie, but not to find fish. I find it invaluable in letting me know where the shallows and drop offs are.

I combine this knowledge with my knowledge of different species habits,  to assist in predicting where schools of fish bight be.

 

 

Q : Sometimes you hear the locals say : "The prawns are running " Assuming I can find out where they are running to,

      what do you have to do to catch them ?

 

A: If you want to catch prawns find Murray Brown and pick his brain. Murray has been catching 5 to 8 kg a night with a dip net and light around Raymond island.

As for where are the prawns running to, - I am of the view that the prawns can feel the vibration of the surf as it crashes on the ninety mile beach, and instinctively move towards this vibration. As a result they will eventually run out the entrance with the ebb tide enabling you to dip them out of the boat as they float past.

 

Throw into this mix the moon - which the prawns do not like, wind – which delays the tide and 100 other tinnies anchored up in the channel, and the night can be very eventful.

Some prawns as they move towards the sound of the surf, go into Bunga Arm and are unable to get out. Anglers that are attuned to this can clean up. 

 

Q: I can not find a book or magazine which concentrates on fishing on the Lakes. Do you know of one ?

     Your story on the website is very good.

 

A: Fishing Monthly Magazine, has up to date comments on what is biting in the Gippsland Lakes- available at all good news agents.

You must remember that up to date information is always 2 weeks old.

It is always better to developed a rapport with local anglers and keep your self updated on their success.

 

 

Jan 2009

 

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Q : What is the difference between golden snapper and normal snapper ? and where do you catch golden snapper ?

 

Answer: There are over 20 different fish with the word SNAPPER in their name. Most of these appear to be located in the north of Australia. I am not familiar with Golden snapper, but as one of the common names is 'Fingermark bream' I think it as also located in the north. 

 

Q : What are the different types of whiting and which one's do we catch around East Gippsland ?

 

Answer: There appears to be 4 whiting species. King George, Sand, School, and Trumpeter Whiting. I am familiar with two, King George and Sand. The most commonly caught is King George. Mussel is a great bait for these fish they are considered the best of all eating fish. For the occasional fisher finding a school is difficult as they are constantly on the move.

 

Q : Flathead  are a very hard fish to handle without getting spiked. What do you do ?

 

Answer: When I am at work I have cotton gloves on, these make it easier to handle the fish. My first action is to grab the fish firmly around the gills just above the spikes. This is not for the faint hearted. Then if I have to I will hold the fish by placing my thumb in the mouth. I still get spiked and if they get you once they always get you again before you can let go. The injuries often hurt but do not require medical treatment.

 

Q: I was fishing down your way recently. I am surprised how many angles are using soft plastic. I have had no luck. except for one flattie. Is there a particular plastic you know off ?

 

Answer: When fishing for flathead I don't think it matters what type of plastic you use, the action and location are the more important aspects. Flathead that I catch regurgitate all manner of small fish, ells and prawns. 

Over the summer months these fish move in to shallow water and are more active just before sun down. Wade along the sandy drop off and make sure the lure hits the bottom after each jig.

 

 

Q :Where can I buy a fishing licence in Payneville ?                  

 

Answer; In Paynesville a recreational fishing licence can be purchased at 'Clint's ski school' ( the video store) or you can go on line.

 

How do I Obtain a Licence?

Victorian anglers now have the option to buy a three-year Recreational Fishing Licence for $66. This presents a saving of $7.50 on the combined cost of purchasing three annual licences. Anglers can still buy the one-year RFL for $24.50, the 28-day RFL for $12, and the 2-day RFL for $6.

The RFL may be purchased to come into effect on a future date for up to one year from the date of purchase. An RFL may not be loaned or transferred to another person.

The RFL is available from many DPI offices and more than 980 retail businesses throughout Victoria, including most retail fishing tackle stores.


 

 



 

 

 

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Licence Outlets

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Q : You hear it said all the time that the Lakes are a complex ecosystem  I've also heard it said just because the swans can't find food is not an indication of things being wrong ? Isn't that simply ignoring indicators ?

 

Answer: Indicators are useful when looking at the health of the Lakes, but interpreting what they mean is the difficult part.

An example of this occurred after the floods, when most of the sea horses and small black mussels died. One observer concluded that this was an indicator of poor lake health and attracted plenty of media attention with his views.

I thought that both of these species were marine creatures that do not survive well in a fresh water environment.                                           Dec 08

 

Q: this is now the third time I've come down fro Cup W/E ... and the winds are driving me mad. Does it always blow here?

Answer: Spring is the windiest time of the year. Summer has the sea breeze. Winter has the South westerlies, Autumn is the calmest time of the year.                                                                                                       Dec 08

 

Q :My grandson is bored with fishing off jetties. He wants to go fishing in a river.

     1 : Does he need a different rig etc.

     2 : What bait would you use ?

     3 : Do you know any good spots please ?

     Sorry about all these questions. My whole family loves your page !

 

Answer: No. he won’t need to change his rig if fishing in the river. Peeled prawn is always good bait. I can’t help with good spots to fish. Most anglers drive along the river, and talk to other fishers. This way they find out who is catching fish and who is not.

But your grandson may be too impetuous. I saw a fisher catching bream in the straits at Paynesville on the weekend. I also hear that there are flathead biting around Paynesville. As summer roles on the jetties will get better and better.                                                                                 Dec 08

 

Q :Where can I buy a fishing licence in Paynesville ?

 

Answer: Good question I shall make enquiries.

 

Q : Caught a bream 1.44 ks. The question I have is this. When you fish for snapper you can not keep one OVER a certain size.

      Why don't we have something like that with bream ?

 

Answer: I would have to ask you what you think the advantage of this restriction would be?  Do you think these large bream are the major breeders? What % of bream, that you catch, are of this size? I suspect very few.

 

I believe bream have one million eggs per kg of body weight. I understand that they reach sexual maturity at about 22cm. By far the greatest biomass of spawning fish lies in the size from 22cm to 28cm. The total weight of fish spawning in a poor year may be over 50 thousand kg. i.e. 25 thousand million eggs in any year. In a good year it may be 100 thousand million eggs.

These larger fish are only a very small number in the overall spawning biomass.                                                                                                      Dec 08

 

December 08

 

Q: My grandson wants to know why dolphins never get hooked by fishermen. ?

He also wants to know if " lake" dolphins are different from ocean dolphins ?

 

A.

My understanding is that dolphins are highly intelligent. They probably recognise that what is being offered is dangerous to them.

With the entrance to the lakes being open all the time, Dolphins can and often do come and go from the lakes at will. I understand from information provided by the Dolphin Watch group, that there are about 50 Dolphins that are sighted regularly in the lakes.

It appeared that when the alga was at its peak, last summer, most of the Dolphins left the lakes. They appear to be back now.                                                   Dec 08

 

Q : In one of your photos I saw a turtle. How did that get into the Lakes ?

A.

That was the only turtle I have seen in the lakes, yet other fisherman say that they see one every year.

I guess they come down the east coast with the warm currents during the summer months.                                                                                                         Dec 08

 

Q:  What would you use for bait to catch a Mulloway ?

A.

Mall George, the notoriously dedicated Mulloway fisherman from Bairnsdale (George's Hamburger Shop) uses fillets of Taylor.

I think there is more to it than having the right bait. Location, patience, timing, heavy enough gear etc.                                                                                 Dec 08

 

Q:  In today's Local is information that a forum on " How Healthy Are The Lakes " is being held. All the speakers are academics. Not ONE local " hands on " person is invited. Do you have a comment ?

 

A.

Lots of locals have opinions, about the health of the lakes, but they are JUST opinions. Nothing beats the scientific information that the academics present.

I went to the forum on " How Healthy Are The Lakes " and found it to be both informative and comprehensive. It covered all the subjects people have been talking about, such as; dams on and off stream; loss of runoff from logging and wild fire effected bush; pharmaceuticals leaching into the water from intensive dairy farms; sediment and nutrient loads; different types of alga and their toxicity; changes in seagrass; fish health, and a second entrance.

At the end of the presentation local experts had the opportunity to asked questions of the panel.

I think the forum was well presented and well run                              Dec 08

 

Q :  In a recent article in the Herald Sun it claims that the recreational and professional      fishermen say the Lakes have never been in better shape? Being on the Lakes day in and out, what is your view?

 

A. From year to year the lakes change. The algae bloom was another faze. I have seen a plague of crabs in the fifties-sixties, there was not a skerrick of weed at this time. Late eighties-nineties the weed in the lake was so thick Eagle Point gained a reputation of being a very smelly place. In the eighties there was a plague of bream. In 2004-2007 there was a plague of seahorses and black mussels which die off when the water is fresher. I have seen a number of nogalaria algae blooms, and old fishermen tell me of blooms in the forties. There was a plague of flathead in 2005-6 which we have not seen since the eighties.

 

Nov 08

 

The algae bloom in the summer of 07-08, created a perfect environment for bream to breed. I had reports of large numbers of small fish from a number of commercial fishers at the height of the bloom. The photo below shows 15 small bream that fell out of the stomach of two flathead caught around Raymond Island in February 08, when the algae was at it's thickest.

 

There are huge numbers of whitebait in the lake, and I suppose it is these that have attracted large numbers of Taylor into the system. I have been catching half a ton of Taylor a week for the last 12 weeks. These fish will remain in the system until late April, when they will return to sea.

I think the lakes are ok, but that does not mean we should not carry out testing of various factors that can be used to recognise trends. The work that has been done in the irrigation areas to keep farm nutrients on farm is great and should be continued. Areas around the lake that have not been sewered, should be. Strip development should be restricted.

 

Although it does not help tourism, people need to jump up and down from time to time as this is the only way politicians will allocate funding to maintain the lakes as they should be.

Nov 08 

 

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Q : The grass beds are gone. Is that forever ?

 

A. No of course not. Every year is different. Different types of weed grow at different times. I have noticed some green weeds growing back on the rocks. There are plenty of swans feeding out on the banks. This summer we will see what develops. The large areas of sand are providing great feeding areas for lots of small flounder. ‘09 may be a very good year for flounder. 

Nov 08

 

 Q : I am only an " occasional " angler. I caught a flattie the other day. He looked different from the run of the mill ones.

Is that a mutation ? 

 

A. I don't know, I did not see it.

Nov 08

 

Q : Are any of the professional fishermen on the boards that manage the Lakes ?

 

A. No. We do what we can when we think it is necessary.

Nov 08

Q :Is there a difference between size limit of Luderick and Bream.   

A. ( as at Oct '08 ) Bream are 28cm, Luderick 22cm. Some fish sizes will change when the impending new regulations are introduced     

Oct.08

 

Q: Why does a Luderick fight harder than a bream ?

A Luderick are bigger and stronger than Bream, This is probably because they feed predominantly in running water. I think they cut a much better fillet than a bream.                                                                            

Oct.08

 

 

Q: Do you fish off jetties. If so, which are the best jetties to fish from?

 

A. Over many years Gov. organisations removed snags and other structures from the waterways to make boating a little safer. But these structures have been replaced 10 fold in the form of jetties. The bream, luderick and other species use them for shade and protection. In mid summer it is quite common to see large numbers of fish laying in the shade. If fishing for bream I like to use my kayak to cast an un weighted, peeled prawn in under the jetties. If a fish takes the bait and I hook it, it will always run out into the deep water away from the structure. This gives one an excellent chance of landing a big fish.

Luderick are fished for from the jetties and one requires a stout rod to keep them from getting back under the structure.

The best jetties- go and look.                                                                 

Oct.08

 

 

Q : Will we be able to buy sandworms in the future. None for ages !

 

A.I hope not. Using sandworm as bait is like throwing lollies into a school assembly. The kids pounce on them the teachers would get very few. Little bream are suckers for sandworm. Thousands of little bream are killed as a result of anglers using inappropriate baits and J hooks. Both should be banned.

 

At each stage of a fish's life it eats different foods. Just out of the egg it eats algae and small larvae, as it grows so the food changes. A 28 cm bream will eat tougher and faster foods. Some of the best fishers I know use blue shell for bream as this bait catches fewer small fish. I prefer white bait which small fish will reject.                                                    

                                                                                 Oct.08

 

 

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Q: Run of prawns. Could not do any good last season. What do you think the future will hold?

 

A. The older fishers in the area suggest that after an algae bloom we get a good run of prawn. It is suggested that some have been caught at Tambo Bight already. We will know in the next month.                      

Oct.08

 

Q : Two years ago lots of Flatties. Now they are gone! What's the future?

 

A. All the fish come and go in waves. When conditions are right for a particular species we get a flush of fish. There is a smaller run of flathead on the way, but they are only 30cm long at the moment.  

Oct.08

 

Q : Why are the Lakes full of jelly fish one day and none the next ?

 

A. Jelly fish are only just mobile. They are easily moved around when the water moves. If you want to see how much the water moves - tie a piece of rope to the wave breaker on a jetty and let it dangle in the water. Look at it each day.                                                                        

Oct.08

  

 

Q : Do you think we will ever get a second entrance ? What's your view on that ?

A. No. They can't keep the one they have open.                            Oct.08

 

Q : Years ago you could catch the occasional Mulloway . Are they gone forever?

 

A. I spoke to a fisher last year who was catching mulloway in the rivers. I also spoke to a diver who had sighted Mulloway under structures in the rivers. They are there all the time.                                                          

Oct.08

 

 

Q : Have you ever heard of sharks in the Lakes? Someone told me they come here to die?   What's your opinion?

 

A. I don't know if they come in to die, those that I have caught, in the lake, over the years looked healthy and tasted ok.                              

Oct.08

 

Q : Did the recent condition of the Lakes affect the presence of Dolphins ?

 

A. Dolphins come and go from this system and other systems at will. When the algae was thick in 2007 most left the system. Lots have now returned.                                                                                                      

 Oct.08

 

 

Q : Do you shell the prawns you bait up, or leave the shell on ?

 

A. I prefer to shell the prawn. I think this helps the sent disperse faster.

                                                                                                

Oct.08

 

Q : Do you take out passengers? If so, how much do you charge?

A. No                                                                                                               

Oct.08

 

Q : Do you smoke your own fish? Any hints?

 

A. No. Those that do say Taylor is the best local fish to smoke.      

Oct.08

 

 

Q : We look like having a hot summer, does this mean with the warmer water we will have a good fishing season.

 

A. Fishing is always better under the jetties in the summer.          

Oct.08

 

 

Q : Is there a difference between skip jack and a Taylor. ?                  

 

 A. No                                                                                                               Oct.08

 

Q:   There does not seem to be a lot of weed for swans to feed. How do they survive ?

 

 Answer. Swans feed on a number of different things. Growing weed, grass, and shellfish. They are not tied to an area and will readily move if there is insufficient food for them. Feeding them bread regularly is not good for them.                                                                                                  

Oct.08

 

Q:   Not many cormorants  around. Will that improve the fish stocks ?

 

Answer. The number of fish is dependent on breading success. There are not a lot of cormorants around at the moment, but as the Algae is starting to clear, more and more will return. Last year was an excellent year for breeding bream. Large numbers of small fish will attract large numbers of cormorants.                    

Oct.08

 

Q:  When trailing for Taylor, what depth do you set the lure ?

 

Answer.  Early in the season, Oct-Nov, I like to get the lure down as deep as possible. This may require different depths in different depths of water. From Dec on, when the birds begin to work, the lure can be worked near the surface. I caught two Taylor on a silver wobbler on Saturday (19/10), in Lake King.      

Oct.08

 

Q : Ludericks. What is the best weed bait ? And can you buy it commercially ?

 

Answer. Luderick will take any green weed. My favourite is cabbage. I don’t think it is available commercially. Dedicated luderick fishers always have an eye out for weed, and they keep it’s whereabouts to them selves. I recommend people go and look.                                                                                        

Oct.08

 

Q : There are so many large bream being caught . Where do they come from?

 

Answer. Bream travel all over the lake, at about 3km/h. See below for a very interesting story on the movements of bream.

Tracking the movement patterns of black bream in the Gippsland

Oct.08

 

Q : There are plenty of carps in Lake Wellington. Why not here ?

 

Answer. European Carp don’t survive very well in salty environments. If there is a good flow of fresh water coming down the rivers, carp will feed in the lake then return to the fresh water before the salt kills them. In a big flood carp will be flushed all over the lakes, but as the surface fresh water mixes with the salt water below, they become stranded and die.                                               

Oct.08

 

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Q: Is there a way to tell the age of the big bream being caught. ?

 

Answer. The only true way is to age the fish by removing the ear bone and counting the rings.

It was suggested for years that bream grow about 1.5cm a year. But recent research shows that when numbers are down and there is plenty of food about they will grow much faster than that.                                                            

Oct.08

 

Q : I have a tinnie . Where can I go to catch some trevally ?

 

A. No idea, Trevally come in to the lake at this time of year but they move around so much. You could catch them in one area today and they would be gone tomorrow.                                                                                                       

Oct.08

 

Q : Don't laugh, but I heard of people eating carp. I have looked for recipes on Google. Do you have a have one ?

 

A. No                                                                                                                Oct.08

 

Q : The whole family loves eating bream, but the fine bones drive us mad. I find it difficult to fillet. Is there a secret ?

 

A. The secret is to go to the fish shop and get the expert to show you how to do it. Then buy the ones he has just filleted.                                                       

Oct.08

 

Q : We often see you coming back from work. Never  "going to"  work. What time do you start in the mornings ? And do you fish in all weathers ? 

 

A. I leave Paynesville at first light. No, not in all weather. I fish when it is safe. Experience tells me when that is. I am right most of the time.                       

Oct.08

 

Q : Very few terns around. Why ?

 

A. Terns arrive with spring. They are very mobile, so aggregate where the best food supply is. Reports indicate that Wellington is full of white bait, so they may be thicker up there.                                                                                             

Oct.08

 

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